OK my lovelies. Tis I. Your fiendishly familiar bitching bastard speaking out against the monotonous drone of idiocy that perpetually flows within the community.
For years we’ve been plagued with one form of idiocy or another in the GVC (Greater Vampire Community) and its time people begin to take a stand on the issues… AS THEY COME UP… After all, some of the have been around for a good long while and only cycle to the surface occasionally.
This time, folks, its people threatening people, either through outright threats of violence, inciting others to violence, and even, veiled threats of violence.
You see. Even in the best of communities you have people, often mislabeled as “bullies”, who go out of their way to make themselves seem like the victim, twisting events, attitudes, and actions along the way to enable this ‘victimhood’.
Take, for example, TWO of the three balls I attended this past Halloween.
One was the AMAZING Court of the Dark Fae. This event was held at the Audobon Zoo’s fantastic Tea Room with a secondary location held in the “swamp”, where I was to perform a Voodoo Ritual Blessing for the inaugural event. Most of my time there, I spent out on the open (and covered for the rain). MOST of the time, I was there, I was in the company of the King of Dallas, Mike Burgess. Even to the point of him itroducing me to Isibella. I filmed a little segment from the location, in which Lord Chaz was present. And then I made my way to the location where I was to do my ritual. Upon arrival, I spent time with Daniel du Kinque (mostly trying to track down the cigar, water and rum for the ritual). I did take time to check out the incredible buffet set up in this location. Fried Green Tomatoes and Roast Beast (on the rare side just like I like it)…
While at this particular venue, Maven was spinning, so I steered well clear of the DJ booth (until I was brought to the DJ booth by Isibella and her Court to perform the actual blessing). I saw Logan ONE time, to which I reached out my hand and said, “I still think of you, Brother.” and moved on to leave for the night. The whole exchange lasted LESS than 5 seconds and on my way out, I saw Daley coming off the ‘train’ as I was in line to get on the ‘train’ to go back to the main event space…
That’s it. One time. For LESS than 5 seconds. PERIOD. And then I caught Anya’s ritual in the main hall, to which I took a couple of sneak pics. Then I caught an uber and left. And only one rum shot was had the entire night because I take my Priesthood seriously when people hire me for work.
The SECOND event was the Alliance Ball. Upon entry, I spent time perusing the scene to see who was there and what, exactly, was going on where. I found a place to post up. Close to my two favorite things… The food and the booze. LOL. I poked my head out on the veranda ONE TIME. Noticed who was out there and turned around to steer clear of who was there… Logan and Daley.
I took a picture of where I posted up and made a campy comment about my “glamour” working and stayed right there EXCEPT for three specific occasions. The first, and most obvious, where I was standing for the predominant part of the night was RIGHT BEHIND THE MAIN BAR. Rum and cokes anyone???
The second time was to go and relieve myself. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, even I have to take a piss every now and again.
The third was to LEAVE THE ENTIRE BUILDING to go downstairs and deal with one of my kids who was in trouble. AS I WAS TALKING with him downstairs, Lori Koen Slavich, Beau Blackledge, and Aradia Esoterica made their illustrious entrance to the event.
After dealing with my wayward street child, I returned to the party. I posted up, yet again in that self same spot. At this time, however, I was joined by two young attendees, Mikki Loga and Steven Gunther. We had a lovely conversation and it made the night so much more fun.
WHILE carrying on the conversation with Mikki and Steven, a disheveled Logan South came in from the direction of that patio balcony. I reached out my hand, yet again, and it was received. Logan then went on to ask where the bathroom was. I told him that it was behind him, second door on the left. He turned and began to go into the door IMMEDIATELY to the left… NOT the second door, so I called out to him that he was at the wrong door… TWICE. However, I. DID. NOT. MOVE. from my location.
I. DID. NOT. MOVE.
This is where ‘veiled threat’ comes into play. Logan’s ENTIRE recount of the events, sadly, are a lie. A complete and utter fabrication. In his recounting of the events, he fails to take into account that I made NO MOVES that were not witnessed by CROWDS of people. As I said. I’m DELIBERATE not a fool.
I DELIBERATELY opened the doors for communication to have them shut in my face by an egomaniacal, manipulating douchepickle of a wannabe community leader who is more a cult leader than anything else.
Logan, in an open post on his facebook page, writes, “DO NOT try to corner me to shake my hand and make it appear that there is some peace between us. There isn’t.”
This predigious and, ironically, copy-cat egomaniacal douchepickle further states, “or I may deck your fucking lights out because I can’t stand the thought of having an abuser’s hand on my skin.”
You see. This is where, you may ask, what abuser is he talking about… Me. Of course. He’s perpetuating a lie based on a lie by someone else to justify his threat of violence. Even though people who have ACTUALLY spent YEARS living with me have stated several times that this is patently untrue. To justify his threat of violence, he has decided to embrace a lie…
This whole year has been about mending fences for many of us and many of the Elders in the GVC are actually attempting to cohesively work together to bring peace and understanding back into the GVC, as a whole… All save the group that call themselves “UNITY”… LOL
Sad. Pathetic. And becoming more sad and pathetic as time goes by…
Oh… And a personal message to Logan… This makes me more believe MIX’s side of the story of how you’ve sent goon squads after him and tried to force his little crazy ass away from the community. Oh. Wait. There’s even POLICE REPORTS that corroberate Mix’s side of the story. Sorry dude. YOU are the ABUSER. You’ve abused your people, your authority (such as it is), and your title.
To the rest of the GVC, as a whole, whenever you allow people of this nature, who either outright threaten others, or use veiled threats and are too chicken shit to actually name names in their threats, to enter your events, you are telling members of the GVC that you are TOTALLY OK WITH THE FACT THAT THERE MIGHT BE VIOLENCE AT YOUR EVENT. You might want to think about that when you’re producing your events.
Do you REALLY want to be seen as the person who allowed violence at your event? Do you REALLY want to take the chance that violence could break out at your event? It’s got to stop somewhere.
Threats have NO PLACE in ANY community. EVER. So stop with the childish bullshit. This isn’t Jr High. You’re not big boy/girl on campus. You can stop with the threats and veiled threats. Its so juvenile. And IF (and I do mean “IF”) you are truly attempting to be a good leader in the GVC, it might behoove you to understand that NOT EVERYONE is going to fall into your personal beliefs/attitudes/interests/associations. That’s just not how any community works.
OK my lovelies… It is I, the Grumpy Friggin Bastiche From Hell.
Let me state this for the record. NEW ORLEANS IS NOW AND FOREVER A NEUTRAL HAVEN FOR THE WHOLE OF THE GVC. To that end, I am going to speak to YOU, the fucktard that decided to call a location, threaten the OWNERS of that location, to get ANY event cancelled makes you lower than low.
Yes. Yes. Yes. I know there are going to be those that are out there that are going to say that Logan is simply crying “wolf”! No. This time. Not even close. Events here, in New Orleans don’t just put money in the pockets of the “promoters”. It puts money in the COMMUNITIES pockets as well… From the hotels, B&Bs, Air B&Bs to the restaurants, pubs, bars of all flavors to the wait staff, bartenders, housekeepers, fast food servers, and any other friggin person that works in this TOURIST INDUSTRY FUCKING TOWN. In other words, you thankless fucktards, you attempted to take money out of MY pocket as well. I work in the tourist industry you fuckwitted cockknocking thundercunts.
You don’t seem to get it. EVEN though I had issues with Father Sebastiaan, I, PERSONALLY, took money out of my pocket to buy tickets for FOUR off duty police officers to attend Endless Nights to insure the safety of guests in New Orleans the year HIS event received threats similar to this nature. It was voted on by NOVA, ratified, and accepted that WE WOULD DO SOMETHING, because NEW ORLEANS IS A NEUTRAL MECCA FOR THE GREATER VAMPIRE COMMUNITY. As ANY of the Mecca’s for the community should be. We did it because it was THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
Logan and I have an issue. That will never be settled until WE, Logan and I alone, have a sit down and speak like adults. I will fight for his right to be a douchepickle all he wants. It is HIS right to be that. You don’t have a GODDAMN, MOTHERFUCKING, single right in this life, nor any other, to threaten the people who may be home to an event. Grow the fuck up you fucking pieces of shit. You want to fucking hurt him in MY city… You better be able to go through me and mine first… I will protect him. Despite, and maybe because of, him being a douchepickle. I will protect him because he is coming to MY city. I will protect him because it is the RIGHT thing to do. Like it or not. He brings people here to enjoy themselves in New Orleans and has EVERY right to do so.
You think its cool to take the money out of people’s pockets so that you can have your fucking little jollies. You’re no better than those fucking people threatening the children after a mass shooting. You are no better than those fuckers torturing the children in the fucking concentration camps on our Southern border. You are fucking no better than the motherfuckers who have harped on Greta’s autism instead of arguing her points.
You deserve NOTHING good in life.
You ARE the fucking weakest link.
DON’T come to New Orleans.
DON’T fucking stay on my friend list, if you happen to be part of it. I know there are ‘observers’ from other groups there… Including some who may have been a part of this fucking stupid enterprise to fuck someone over.
Look. I’m all for people being proud of their cities. It is something that SHOULD be a part of EVERYONE within the GVC, in general, and the world beyond that.
I’m proud of New Orleans. I am proud that, even though people are attempting to make it seem differently, She will ALWAYS be neutral in nature… As any “Mecca for the GVC” should be. Yes. There are MORE than one “Mecca for the GVC”.
Now. I don’t give a damn who lays claim to a piece of New Orleans. I don’t give a damn what organization you belong to. I ONLY give a damn about what you bring to the city. The hope you inspire within the community.
That’s it. That’s all I am concerned with. What you bring to the party, so to speak…
The past few days have been uncharacteristically hateful and filled with a vomitous bile. Disregarding the very fact that not one person has come forth with any sort of common sense solution… Its just been muck-raking, mud-slinging, and a shit storm of what-aboutisms. Finger-pointing about every feckless, dubious allegation from 20+ years ago to the present.
GROW THE FUCK UP.
You’re supposed to be friggin adults. Well let me clue you in on a little something. AS AN ADULT, just because I have problems with someone, this doesn’t mean that I won’t go to events to mingle with OTHER GVC members that I am friends with or consider to be close enough to call “family”. I am NOT supporting a specific person. I am supporting COMMUNITY. EVERY event, whether Endless Nights, Blood Lust, Alliance, Anne Rice, or even NOVA’s Cirque Du Nuit, hosts vendors and talent from across the spectrum of the community. I, like many others, go to support THEM. Not one specific person. THE. COMMUNITY. MEMBERS. EMPLOYED. BY. THESE. EVENTS. As well as to meet with those that have come to enjoy the Crescent City.
AS AN ADULT I do NOT judge a whole group of people based on the actions of a portion of that group. I judge people based on their OWN actions. I do NOT tell people who they can and cannot be friends with because I do NOT like being told who I can and cannot be friends with. That’s called being a FUCKING ADULT.
WHEN you come to New Orleans KNOW that those that are of the true spirit of New Orleans will NEVER make you choose between which parties to attend, which people to speak to, which places to go. We will ONLY ever ask that you be safe. We will ONLY ever ask you to respect the Hotel/Motel, bar, event staff. We will ONLY ever want for you to enjoy your stay in our beautiful Crescent City.
FUCK the haters. ENJOY. FUCK any and all who attempt to tell you what parties and people to support. That is NOT the adult thing to do.
OH. And just to reiterate a few other things. I AM perfectly cool with sitting down like adults and hashing things out. I’ve made this KNOWN since Father Sebastiaan and I had issues… Yet. NOT ONE of you attempt to do this. No. You’d rather continue the same fucking shit that has perpetuated bad blood since the very beginning of the GVC. Sad. Bigly.
But what can I expect from people who continue to act like the GVC version of the GOP and continually spinning bad behavior to what they feel makes them appear to be innocent…
I. AM. AVAILABLE. I don’t hide for any reason nor from anybody. Feel free to say, “Hey. Zaar. Can we talk?”… I will let you know if I can, at that time, or if I need to set up another time for it. I. AM. AVAILABLE. TO. TALK. LIKE. AN. ADULT
(Have the simple minded got this fact yet??)
To those that think they know me… Grow the fuck up. If you truly knew me, you’d know that I can be a highly forgiving person.
Look. I’m not here to tell you what to believe or why to believe it. I’m here to speak on a subject that seems to be the hallmark of the weak and the plaything of the wannabe in crowd.
INCITING PEOPLE TO VIOLENCE:
OK. We have a group of individuals who seem to find it funny to allow people to threaten others on their facebook wall. “We’re gonna come there and handle things the wolf way”, “Someone should beat that ass”, “I’m planning a road trip to show those assholes just what I can do” and shit like this.
Are you fucking kidding me?? Have you fucking NOT been paying attention to what the hell is going on in the United States lately? People are being absolutely ape-shit bonkers and following through with OTHER people’s threats of violence.
Hell. We even have idiots carrying out shit simply because it will please and/or appease those who CALL people to violence. There are some people who are TRULY mentally ill. These people will ALWAYS put the needs of one person or another over the safety of the community.
As I wrote, in response to yet another Darwin award winning person, and repeated on VCN, “However, as EVERYONE should be aware, there ARE mentally unstable people in EVERY community on the face of the planet. The GVC is NOT exempt from this fact… (There are) those who WILL take the animosities to the next level. Inciting violence is an actual issue… ESPECIALLY, lately in the America…”
2) Pointing fingers
C’mon. Do I REALLY have to get into the whole, “this is so fucking childish that it is BEYOND grade school”. Stop. Address the issues that arise and stop with the whole ‘What About-isms”… Who the fuck do you think you are? A bloody fucking Republican talking about Hillary’s friggin emails?? JesusFrigginChristOnACrutch. Grow the fuck up. Are the allegations true, ‘yes’ or ‘no’? Why are they true or false? What’s being done about those that are true? What’s being done about those that are false?
That’s all anyone is TRULY concerned about. Why is this so fucking hard?
As an OPENLY gay man in the GVC, I have had my fair share of false allegations. EVERY time it is by certain individuals that I have spoke out against. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. And it is ALWAYS, “he slept with an underaged person”, though the individuals making the claims have known me for years and KNOW, beyond the shadow of a doubt that I have never dated anyone under the age of 21. (Cause I like my boiz legal to drink so we can go dancing and attend GVC social functions.) It is ALWAYS the same people. ALWAYS. That spread these malicious, incindiary, and heinous accusations. Always. The. Same. People. I’ve fought these allegations fang and claw and will continue to do so. *shrug* I don’t know any other way.
However. I handle my OWN shit. I don’t plead for people to fight for me. I handle my shit. BECAUSE of this… Because of the type of person I am… Because of the good that I CONTINUE to do DESPITE the heinous allegations levied against me… People have begun to speak up on my behalf. INCLUDING those that have lived with me for extended periods of time… From my Best Friend, who now resides in Dallas, to people who ACTUALLY were on Contract with me to people who have stood beside me, worked with me, partied with me, and seen me through major bouts of illness or helped me feed the homeless. People have begun to call BULLSHIT on the allegations.
One time those stupid people tried that when I was dating a 36 year old cop. You should have seen the giggle we both got over that shit. Damn it was funny…
3) STOP Attempting To Call People Out As ‘FAKE’
Who the fuck died and made you the Watcher of the Were, the Umpire of Vampire-dom, the Bench of the Bestiary??? You are NOT the authority of what makes a vampire a vampire because EVERYTHING we have is ANECDOTAL at best… Supposition, at worst. So stop. Just fucking STOP already. You know the one thing that you will NEVER see or hear from me… Who is and who isn’t a vampire. Oh. I have my thoughts on it. I do. However… Calling someone “White Wolf/True Blood posers”, “roleplayers”, “LARPers” or ANYTHING is NOT. YOUR. FUCKING. PLACE.
Sorry. It is not your place. Never was. Never will be. We’ve had enough drama in the community by people attempting to do this. Stop adding to it.
4) Do You REALLY Need To Be So BLATANTLY Stupid
Internet threats are a growing issue in this fucking community. People threatening to dox people all the time. People posting and calling out community members birth names, when people live in situations that can potentially be VERY dangerous. Are you fucking SERIOUS? When did this community turn to acting like the GOP? C’mon, folks. We’ve worked HARD to get from the shadows into OUR version of the light. Many of us live in cities, states, and countries where it is completely, and horrendously, dangerous to be what we are. Those of us that are blessed to live in an area where we can be MORE open city STILL have to be careful. There are simply stupid people out there who will fuck over community members because their names have been laid out there.
Stop acting so fucking stupid. Yay. You know a person’s birth name. Keep it to yourself or pass it PRIVATELY to people who may need to know it. Otherwise… SHUT THE FUCK UP. God I can’t believe how stupid and dangerous some of our supposed intellectuals and researchers are… Just blurting people’s birth names out because they have a wild hair up their arse. Posting it in bogs, speaking it on Facebook Live… Don’t. Don’t attempt to justify endangering people’s lives simply because you are responding to another person’s threats… That’s simply ludicrous and HYPOCRITICAL of you for justifying it as “protecting the community”.
5) In Closing.
Yes. We ARE a community. Like it or not. We may be a “subset” of humanity, however, we ARE a community. We have different factions, which we call everything from Courts to Councils to Orders to… We have a plethora of names for everything in the community. Like EVERY community, we’ve begged, borrowed, and outright stolen from every other community that has drawn our interest. We’ve done it to religions. We’ve done it to ancient cultures. We’ve done it to practically everything that has attracted our attention.
We ARE a community. Like EVERY community we do not always agree, see eye to eye, or like every other part of the community so STOP with the “we aren’t a real community” bullshit. We are just as real as ANY other community you can name. We started off, like many of them, as merely a fringe community and grew into what we are now.
We continue to grow. Just as EVERY other community has. We, sadly, won’t always get along, even in the best of times… Just as every other community. Yet. We grow.
To that end. It is my sincerest hope that one day. One day. We can get the fuck over the stupid assed power trips by people who can’t seem to control their own preternatural impulses long enough to see the harm they bring to the community as a whole. I don’t care WHAT kind of group you run. FOLLOW YOUR FUCKING RULES to the best of your ability and don’t just fucking do things to keep your higher ups “safe”. That is a dismal representation of the community as a whole and will ALWAYS lead to people thinking you are wrong about what you are doing.
This has been the Beast of Bitchery… Belfazaar Ashantison
Have a fucking night… I don’t give a damn what kind… Fuck off with the stupidity and leave my fucking name out of your fucking mouths.
Oddly enough, I am back again… This time, I am going to do the whole EFWAC thing that I was most known for, back in the day. For those of you not familiar with the earned acronym, let me spell it out for you. EFWAC means “Evil Faggot With A Cause”… Now, before anyone gets on their high horse. I AM an OPENLY gay man and CLAIM that word with all the power people has used it against me.
No. Let’s get right to the meat of why I am here tonight. The web of deceit that so many people seem intent on actively participating in. I’ve witnessed, time and again, people PURPOSELY misconstrue something by ACTIVELY changing words to twist something written/spoken to something completely different. All it takes is moving/removing ONE word. Changing ONE word. In this case, using the term “BloodTHIRST” to replace “BloodLUST”.
By that very intentional switch, the person TRULY switched the meaning of what was written to something other than what was written. And they used that switch to entreat OTHERS on their behalf to make the original author, whom they blatantly left out, appear to be the enemy of their scenario. Well. Here’s where the EFWAC comes into this… I was the ORIGINAL author. It was MY words that were twisted and that is the ONE thing that I can NEVER forgive nor forget. Don’t pretend your intentions were/are honorable and that you’re just ‘making conversation’.
It was and always will be, used to demean someone else and make you, the twister, look better than you are. In the GVC, it is ONLY used to hype up a person’s followers and to shine a dark light on those who disagree with you on some banal level. How utterly Jr High of you…
Yes. I wrote “HOW. UTTERLY. JR HIGH. OF. YOU.” Because that is EXACTLY what it is. It is just as stupid as that. Jr High, at best…
Instead of opening dialogue to further understanding, you would rather demean someone. Oh. You left my NAME out of your mouth and OFF your screen, however, we ALL know how the cliquish little circles run. You bring up a topic. Leave someone’s name out of it. Change ONE or more words. And WATCH… Your “friends” start jumping in on it. Rallying to your cause and accepting your point of view as “gospel truth” without ONE IOTA of searching to see if that IS what the person said/wrote or not. Then they come to you in private to see who would say/write such a thing. Then the whole thing spirals from there into a world of “he said/she said” nonsense that the GVC is rife with.
Your peep rally around your conflated ego to assuage your issue and reassure you that YOU are in the right. Fragile. Self-inflated. Egotistical. Misleading. And, yes… Jr High…
Again. If people want clarification on what I have said and/or written, why not just friggin ask me?? How hard is it? It’s not like I don’t answer people when they speak/write to me. Hell. I go out of my way to allow people to know WHERE they can find me when they come to New Orleans…
So. Stop with the Jr High routine. It is TRULY degrading and fits every little detail of what people say is the worst of the community.
In our last post, the GrumpyVamp team brought you the official statement from Alexia of The Red Cellar. I’d like to take a moment to thank her for providing clarification of TRC’s stance on these issues. It’s an important counterpoint to my last article and I hope everyone will take time to read it. But she’s not the only person on the TRC staff who was called out in the document presented in The “Med” Sang Menace.
I reached out to the TRC admin team for their comments and I was fortunate enough to be able to interview Ossivorous Oose, who is the other leader referenced in the infamous document. It is my privilege to be able to present their take on the situation to the GrumpyVamp audience.
Sylvere ap Leanan: Thank you for taking time to speak with us. Please introduce yourself.
Ossivorous Oose, affectionately, though misleadingly, called Leader No.2 in the document.
SAL: As we know, nothing happens in a vacuum. In your own words, please describe the events that led up to the creation of the document authored by Spooky, Jamie and the Unknown Editor that claims to be for the purposes of “Addressing the Internal Infrastructure, within ‘The Red Cellar’ for the Support of Sangs Reflections, Discussion and Future of the MedSang movement”.
OO: What tied the proverbial knickers in a knot? Well, to be honest, the actual moments of catalyst are severely disappointing when paired against the ridiculous level of outrage implied by the writers of the document. Ultimately, I think those involved with this repulsive word salad / shit bomb had the wrong idea of how TRC is run, what it’s actually about, and also of their own importance within the group itself. Perhaps they were disappointed that it’s not some sort of elite social club of selective sang supremacy?
SAL: It has been suggested that one author is primarily responsible for the content of the document and that the others contributed very little, if anything, to its content. Do you believe that suggestion is accurate? If so, who do you believe to be the primary author of this document?
OO: I feel that Spooky was the main culprit behind the whole ridiculous affair, from initial instigation, to the actual drafting of the document. That being said, however, I do believe that Jamie was in complete compliance with the disturbing stance and what was eventually written down. Going back in the chat logs of our server, I can see the hate filled gospel begin churning months ago. With both of them. If Jamie didn’t significantly contribute by way of actual conception, she was certainly down with and willingly subject to indoctrination.
SAL: How large a contribution do you think the other authors made to the document?
OO: Without further evidence, it would be difficult for me to make clear judgement on the amount of content contributed by the individuals involved. That being said, however, a good amount of guilt by association is reasonable, I think, especially when one considers the inherently offensive and hateful bile that made up the core of the document.
SAL: One of the co-authors has claimed that this document was stolen, edited, and subsequently leaked by a third-party proofreader for some malicious purpose. Do you believe this claim has merit? What are your reasons for that belief?
OO: To be honest, I don’t buy the “document was edited!” shtick. They released the document to several themselves in failed pursuit of finding support for their agenda. I believe these claims to be a desperate attempt at saving face and back-peddling, which is a tactic they both employ often when confronted with any sort of push back. The document was meant for circulation. I think that’s quite clear to see.
SAL: According to one of the co-authors, this document was created because the TRC staff has an obligation to listen to any and all suggestions, concerns, and other feedback from the general membership, otherwise, they are dictators. This same author insinuated that the TRC admin team is also obligated to implement policies based on that feedback. What are your thoughts about this?
OO: We are not under strict obligation to listen to all grievances and, furthermore, retain the right to moderate our space as we see fit. We don’t make decisions lightly, bow to so-called popular opinion of the GVC, nor operate out of any attempts at being oppressive overlords. We hold the right to judge situations & people through personal interaction, and deal with dangerous content / individuals in ways we find appropriate.
Contrary to what the document wants people to believe, our actions are decided as an administrative team and stem directly from the need for fairness, accuracy, and safety. If a member becomes abusive, supports an unsavory agenda, or spews hateful propaganda, how can they logically expect us to be receptive to what they have to say?
SAL: In her guest post on GrumpyVamp, Elizabeth Hopka included a statement of apology attributed to co-authors Jamie and Spooky. Do you accept the apology? Since the apology extends beyond the borders of TRC, do you think the GVC as a whole should accept it? What is your reasoning for this opinion?
OO: I acknowledge the attempt in atonement, however, considering the character of those involved, I find neither sincerity, nor comfort in it.
Honestly, I’m not interested in shotgun apologies. I just hope that those involved with this deluded vitriol take a very good look at who they are, what they’ve done, and why they did it.
SAL: As a member of the TRC staff, you are expected to uphold the established policies of the server. However, in your personal opinion, do you agree with the current direction of TRC or would you prefer it to go another route?
OO: I agree with it entirely. Our current direction is something the administrators have come to collectively after a great deal of toil and dialog. Admittedly, we haven’t always been easy to get along with. Many of us come from difficult GVC situations that, I think, negatively skewed our overall point of view in the past. Being decent to others in no way challenges our core concepts or integrity. If having people with different beliefs around challenges your own self-image, I think that’s a personal issue, and need to evaluate your true motives at that point. Our current direction, if anything, makes it easier for us to help those who are in need.
SAL: What do you want readers to know about TRC, in general?
OO: Our mission is to support blood drinkers, not be judgmental, hate propagating piles of stinking excrement.
So there you have it. The two leaders who were called out have spoken. It sounds to me like TRC is just as horrified by that steaming pile of bovine excrement as anyone else. And it also sounds like they are genuinely attempting to do something positive for the GVC, regardless of how an individual self-identifies. For those who perceive a need to consume blood for the health benefits it gives, The Red Cellar is one of the top resources for information and support. Check them out.
Editor’s Note: Previously, this article mistakenly used incorrect pronouns for Ossivorous Oose. It has been updated to correct this error.
Greetings, Gentle Readers. Today, GrumpyVamp has the pleasure of bringing you a guest post from Alexia, founder and administrator of The Red Cellar website and Discord server. As promised, this post is the official statement from TRC addressing the recent attempted coup on their Discord server, the document presented in our previous article The “Med” Sang Menace, and clarifying TRC’s position.
By now, Gentle Reader, you know the drill. Long post is long. Long post needs to be long to do it justice. Long post is well worth your time. Read it. You won’t regret it.
In truth, GrumpyVamp is delighted that Alexia was willing to make this guest post, and would like to extend Grumpy’s sincere thanks for taking time out of her busy schedule to draft it. Note to readers: Alexia is originally from the U.K. so there are a few words spelled in accordance with British English rather than American English conventions. It’s not a typo and, therefore, has not been corrected. So let’s get to it, shall we?
Where do I begin? It’s hard to know where to start with such a dumpster fire as the document shown in “The Med Sang Menace”.
Recently, The Red Cellar had to deal with a coup attempt. The authors say it was not a coup and that it was to trigger discussion. If it was just for discussion, why was a manifesto spread in secret to many people including the line “this can be spread to the GVC”? Further, what makes the authors think that they have a right to try and force the hand of the administration team? The individuals involved were told the issue had been discussed, decided, and to drop it. They chose not to and instead disseminated the document in secret. The attacks on vulnerable people and bigotry is not what TRC is about.
Before I get into the body of the document and make my comments, I first want to clarify the position of The Red Cellar. This has been discussed and agreed with all administrators present in our Discord server, so I am not speaking only on behalf of myself. TRC was made to be a welcoming space. The division of opinion on otherkin and therians, along with supporting those who are vulnerable, is what led to the creation of the document to begin with. One of our administrators identifies as otherkin and runs a therian/otherkin group. Those who know me recall that Syrf was one of my close friends before she passed; she identified as a cat therian (as well as med sang) and helped me to understand these different identities. Simply put, psi, otherkin, therian, whatever, it isn’t relevant to TRC. If you feel you need blood, we are here to help. We have no place commenting on other aspects of your identity – it’s your business how you identify, not ours. Considering any group a “cancer to be purged” goes against all we stand for. It reeks of hate and fascism. No sentient being should ever be treated that way. Respect and approaching from a place of mutual understanding is key.
Given the amount of content I have to get through, I’m going to go ahead and get started.
No one is a ‘torchbearer’. To call oneself that and to tell everyone to sit down is in itself narcissistic. No one is required to listen. Someone is not required to sit and have a discussion. The Red Cellar operates in a democratic fashion, with key decisions being discussed and voted on by our group of administrators. I am more than happy to listen to concerns; however, decisions are made as a group and when someone is told to DROP an issue after repeatedly breaking server rules, that goes well beyond what is appropriate.
I have never heard the term “EMWs” or heard it used to identify psi persons. As for Species Dysphoria, this part of the document essentially dismisses half of the GVC and all Otherkin. TRC’s Discord server does have a rule to not discuss metaphysics except for in Off Topic. That is not because TRC discriminates against psi. It is simply because there are many other servers for it and it is not the focus of the group – the focus is sanguivory, blood drinking and anything and everything to do with blood drinking from a medical, physiological perspective. Metaphysical issues are outside the scope of TRC, and we are simply not equipped to provide proper support for them. That said, there is NO rule banning anyone of identities beyond ‘med sang’ joining the group. The core focus is to support blood drinkers. Sanguivory is not a medical diagnosis. The only thing we have to go from is our own anecdotal experiences. If this is a physiological issue, people can still interpret that in many different ways. Some may practice some form of magick or have esoteric/occult interests. Some may hold a belief in metaphysical energy. Some may do neither. The point is, it is not someone’s business what someone else believes, practices, or identifies as. If they need support with sanguivory, we will provide it; be they Otherkin, med sang, sanguinarian, hybrid, whatever. We are also human beings. We do not turn away those who are questioning. We do not turn away psi who have come to our server and enjoy the human support we can provide. We can still maintain our focus while staying true to our core focus of support for physiological blood drinking. Sanguivory isn’t easy to deal with. Many of us grew up with it alone and suffered greatly for it. Now, people don’t have to. I don’t give a sh*t what their identity is if we can contribute to make things safer for both blood drinkers and donors thanks to our own experience; then we’re doing things right. I will not segregate TRC and section ourselves away from those who can benefit. That is a mistake I believe we made years ago.
Given the document was written by a self-admitted sociopath, I am not surprised that the next part of the document then proceeds to blame YOU for your feelings of disgust and outrage when reading it. The author is willing to take no responsibility for the utter garbage that proceeds to flow from their mouth despite being the one writing it. There must be a ‘rational reason’ for your outrage. Not because, y’know, you’re a human being with feelings. I can smack someone in the face and call them a c*nt; if they get upset though, it’s on them because they are the only one controlling their body. Right? *eyeroll*
I do not need to elaborate too much on a sociopath’s view of altruism. Of course, if you don’t understand or feel emotions well, you may assume everyone is doing things for personal gain because it is a projection of the sociopath’s own inability to connect to any motive except selfishness.
The document then proceeds into psychobabble. I’m not going to go too deeply into this. The author of this document likes to play armchair psychologist despite having no understanding of human emotion on a personal level. TRC is a support group. We offer peer support for blood drinkers. I grew up dealing with my sanguivory on my own. I was isolated and it was absolutely terrifying. I’ve lost a best friend to suicide. This is not an easy thing to deal with at all. It is my passion and deep care for blood drinkers that pushes me to do what I do – and to stick with it despite t3h dramaz. As such, that is why I am so focused on a caring, warm environment. The GVC can be harsh. We need a safe space for physiological blood drinkers to be. We have plenty of channels – there’s enough space for everyone. That’s why TRC has a ‘support chat’ and ‘off topic’. There are a lot of places for blood drinkers. We even have a private room for long-time members. The intent of the document was to challenge our focus of support and say we should be restricting our ‘borders’ to ‘true sangs’; whatever that is.
I do not care for segregation. There can be boundaries, certainly, and there should be. But we share people, we are neighbours. Without that, people don’t find us and our resources become useless. As I mentioned before, people who drink blood come from many practices, identities, and beliefs. All are welcome. A lot of people come in to simply learn about sangs. We have all kinds of people coming in, from those who are questioning whether they need blood themselves, to those who are simply curious. We have rules that maintain the focus of physiological and medical blood drinking. We do not need to play gatekeeper and kick people out for not having the same beliefs or views as us. Doing that leads to an echo chamber. It does not represent who I am as a person. I am a tolerant, inclusive person. I no longer want conflict with the GVC to turn me into something I’m not.
That’s not to say we keep people who are toxic. There have been incidents where an individual turned every issue to be about them, threatened suicide, among other things to the extent where members didn’t feel comfortable or safe discussing their own issues. That person was removed in time. That decision rests with the administrators of the server and it is up to us to decide where that line is. Members can have and can raise concerns, but there are boundaries. When you are trying to force someone’s hand and make personal attacks on the group and its members, that is far beyond what is acceptable.
The author of the document is not a doctor. Note the document says ‘prescription’ drugs. If a doctor has deemed it necessary for their patient to be on a certain medication, that person should not be shamed for it. Mental health is a sensitive issue. No one should be shamed for needing medication to manage their health issues. Medication can be life saving. This paragraph only seems to further illustrate the callous nature of the writer. It speaks to their views about tr00 l33t sangs – “contributing to the illusionary inclination of blood need”. Who is *anyone* to tell someone whether they need blood or not? That is down for the individual to decide. Sanguinarian is defined only as someone who ‘needs’ blood to maintain their health. If someone feels they need it to maintain their mental health, I do not feel they should be degraded or treated as lesser than someone who needs it to maintain their immune system. It is quite possible that mental health issues or medications can exacerbate or suppress sanguinary symptoms. That is one thing we endeavour to find out. The brain has significant physiological side-effects on the rest of the body. Mindfulness meditation has benefits that can be seen on an MRI.
Blood *is* a medication to some and many perceive it that way. It isn’t a panacea. However, it is taken regularly to prevent health degradation which manifests various symptoms. If you only use it for additional nutrition, can it be said that perhaps you have an illusionary inclination of blood need because you don’t truly need it? I don’t personally care why someone says they need it, but those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Blood is nutritous and is used around the world, both in cooking and as a health supplement. Nutrition IS medicine. In fact, blood has been used as medicine for a long time. A great book on the subject is “Mummies, Cannibals and Vampires: The History of Corpse Medicine from the Renaissance to the Victorians”. That said, blood in my view is a desperate measure and it is dangerous to suggest people take blood in lieu of following up with medical professionals. One should never stop following up with medical professionals because something insidious could be lurking under the veil of ‘sanguinarian’. If that makes us pill-popping because we continually seek to learn more about our condition and do follow up through the correct channels, perhaps the disdain for networking with doctors is far more dangerous than someone off-the-cuff referring to blood as ‘medicine’. There is nothing wrong with saying what medicine worked for you and recommending someone look into it. That person is not a doctor. The individual cannot access the medicine unless it is discussed with their doctor and their doctor believes it is right for their situation and treatment plan. This goes on in peer support groups for all manner of things – from sanguivory to MS and fibromyalgia. This further demonstrates the author’s social ineptitude and lack of understanding of how peer support works. If a doctor’s prescribed medication causes someone to be hospitalized, that is the result of an incompetent doctor. Also note that the authors disbelieve that any sanguivore should need medication if they have enough blood. Blood to them is apparently some miracle cure-all for all ailments.
As for Huel, is there a problem with that? It is called a POSITIVE PRODUCT REVIEW. Google it. Many sanguinarians experience digestive maladies and cannot properly process food, leading them to be malnourished and consequently causing a worsening of their symptoms. Huel was recommended to provide something that a sanguinarian could digest but still meet all of their nutritional requirements leading to improved health. If they think that this is malicious ‘suggestive’ behaviour, it only goes to demonstrate how sick the writer is. Oh wait, that’s right – there is no altruism, everything is selfish in the eyes of a sociopath – not trying to improve the sanguinarian’s quality of life through enhanced nutrition.
Soft language comes next. I do not believe this is a ‘problem’ in TRC. It is basic human decency to watch what you say to people and avoid offense when possible. That is the cornerstone of respect and human kindness. To someone without empathy, I can see where this could be seen as an issue. In a support server, people can be in bad places. Members will not feel comfortable expressing themselves or seeking help if someone constantly jumps down their throat and is rude. That is something I personally don’t tolerate. People don’t need a ‘blanket’. If someone wants to support a member, that’s on them. If you don’t like it, don’t get involved. If it becomes excessive, the admin team will address it. Not your call to make.
“Woo” hasn’t been used by TRC for a good while. It is seen as derogatory and condescending to some of our members and their beliefs. Perceiving your blood need as physiological isn’t mutually exclusive with other kinds of beliefs and practices. Talking down to others in such a way makes med sangs appear hostile and disrespectful. It alienates a good portion of our member base.
Again, it is down to TRC to decide what the scope of support offered by TRC is. If you don’t like it, look away. There haven’t been instances of something not being ‘contained’; rather, there have been instances of someone seeking support, an admin taking time to try and calm them down, and then the two authors of the ‘document’ being condescending, rude, and callous. I shit you not when I quote “I will send digital roses to your grave” when someone was trying to get help. Not only cruel comments like that, but trying to psychoanalyze with Wikipedia level skill and questioning/doubting people’s experiences. If you want to act like a c*nt, go do it on your own servers and see how well it goes.
Peer support doesn’t require ‘skills’ – that is the nature of peer support groups. The biggest liability comes with trying to psychoanalyze people without qualifications as the main author of this document likes to do.
I will not elaborate too much on the ‘Species Dysphoria’ comments as this has been expanded upon by Blacklight in his excellent rebuttal article.
TRC does not ‘play doctor for political standing’. Anyone who perceives TRC to be about that is clearly projecting their own agenda. TRC has *never* been about that. We are there for support for blood drinkers, for information, and for scientific inquiry into sanguivory. Political agendas have never been part of what we do; to the contrary, that is the objective of the authors of ‘the document’ and they have been playing political games for many months now. The decision to be more inclusive was after much soul-searching and a realization that past approaches were not conducive to our overall goals. That we alienated people who needed our help. That people did not feel safe referring people to us. Again, we are a support group. We do not offer medical advice. We share experiences and are a shoulder for anyone going through a rough time. We are one of the few specialized groups for blood drinkers and the role we play is crucial. I will not have our support compromised for anyone. As for ‘grave legal ramifications’, it is funny that the author talks of liability yet they are clearly not an attorney. We do not diagnose. We do not contradict medical diagnoses. We do not offer step-by-step recovery programs. We listen and we share experiences. You know, like every other peer support group in the world.
The Direction of Med Sangs
Infamy was never the intent of previous debates with the Vampire Community. The med-sang ‘movement’ or ‘community’ has changed a lot over the last few years. Nor was the intent to show psi that ‘they lacked rationality’. Let me clarify that the two authors of the ‘document’ were not part of the med-sang community during the time that they are talking about. They are in no position to talk about our history or why we did what we did. They entered the community in 2018 after our ‘direction’ had already changed. The justification for our arguments with psi in the past was that many of us felt it was omnipresent, that non-metaphysical methods were traditionally shouted down and that we had to show that it was okay to see your condition from a physiological perspective and not practice any metaphysics. Some argued that proximity to the Vampire Community made us less credible to researchers. Others wanted little to do with self-identified vampires and so the decision was made to separate. It was never about division and hatred; we simply wanted to do the best for ‘our people’. Despite how wrong I believe it to be now, back then, I felt I was genuinely doing the right thing and fighting for our right to be heard, to let others know it was okay to perceive their sanguivory that way, and to build a safe space for them to do so. In the end, I still feel that was accomplished, but that the approach taken did significant damage to our ability to help blood-drinkers overall.
The creation of the TRC Discord did not mark a new approach, nor did it mark us for the first time as a quantifiable group. We had been known for years already (how could we be infamous if we weren’t a quantifiable group?) and the Discord server was simply another avenue for us to provide outreach and support. The new approach was already adopted at this point. For reference, please see this article which clarified the new approach and when (and this has only continued to evolve):
The focus of Sangs getting support in TRC has not changed. It is for blood drinkers by blood drinkers. That doesn’t mean we will shun anyone who is not. There are plenty of outlets in the TRC Discord server for sangs to talk about their issues. “General-Sang”, “Lampreys” and “Support” being but a few. Just because other-identified persons sometimes need support does *not* mean we have lost our focus; just that we are decent human beings who want to help other people if they come to us.
We are not in a position to judge who is a ‘genuine sang’ or not. Who is anyone to judge who is ‘legit enough’ to be allowed in? None of us have any evidence that we need blood. None of us know why we are this way. Playing ‘more sang than thou’ is exclusionary, elitist and undermines the focus of supporting blood drinkers.
We are not searching for ‘credibility as med sangs’. We are not out to prove what we are or to justify ourselves. We aim to maintain an open mind and perform scientific inquiry into the nature of our condition. Confirmation biases undermine this goal completely.
Nor do we have to keep a ‘diseased identity’. This shows utter callous disregard for people’s mental health issues and general health problems. Nutrition and medicine is part of our approach to sanguivory. We have people with knowledge of supplements, nutrition, and biology. If people voice a complaint, we share what advice we can. That’s not a race to see who is the most diseased; it is simply trying to HELP.
I will address an issue with the two authors of this document with regards to ‘complaining about any effort to get blood’. The authors are ableist, judgemental, and condescending people. They have said before that those who are unable to get donors deserve to starve. Not everyone is able to get donors that easily. Some have anxiety disorders. Some are physically disabled. They like to play ‘more wampyr than thou’ by comparing how sick they get without blood, how much blood they drink, and how many donors they have – like some internal circle jerk confirming how l33t sangs they are. If you can’t get donors, fuck you, you don’t deserve it (essentially).
Yes, there is a need to compare the need for blood in terms of need, symptoms among other things. For basic scientific inquiry, this is necessary. You need to have people who are alike to have any frame of reference. This has always been the case. However, it’s not to decide who is genuine enough to be allowed in or who is credible. It’s not our place to decide that, or to talk down to people whose need may differ from our own. There is a lot of space on the internet for all types of people.
I have no intention of ‘kissing VCN ass’. Saying that, I do not think there is a problem with having allies. I do not think that proximity to the VC is harmful. The VC can provide referrals, leads, among other things. Some cross-over is necessary so people actually find us. Locking ourselves up on an island means we are in a position to help precisely no-one. Removing ourselves from these spaces meant that we hardly helped anyone for a period of almost two years. More people have found us and reached out for help than ever before. Medical research is a long-term goal, but support is something we can offer right now.
The author then goes to say that my nature has been taken advantage of and repurposed. I am not some tool to be repurposed for political agenda. I care deeply about what I do and the people I serve. I try my best to do what I think is the right thing and for the greater good in every decision I make. I do not do it for appreciation; I do it because of what I went through growing up alone as a sanguivore. It was deeply traumatic for me and almost cost me my life when I was 15 years old. I am driven with great passion to do my best to provide for sanguivores and advocate for us publicly. I do have purpose and I do feel a sense of urgency and need on my shoulders. That is simply because I care. I honestly have no desire or interest for anyone to kiss my ass. To the contrary, it makes me extremely uncomfortable. I seek to serve a cause I care about, not to have people brown nosing me. With regards to the, ahem, ‘EMWs’ in TRC, I am simply happy they feel comfortable to share their experiences and can seek us out for blood support. We do not need to be an echo chamber and it makes me truly happy when people find what they need in us. Non med-sangs are not ‘junk food’ or a cancer that needs to be purged from the ‘TRC body’. I’m also not a ‘head of the body’ – we are not an autocracy. We are a horizontal organization with a collective of leaders. The Discord server has 5 admins, all of whom vote on our direction, rules, and all key decisions about the server.
To wrap this up, I want to say I regret that this vitriol came from within the TRC server. We do not support bigotry, hatred, or abuse. It is not our place to criticize your personal gnosis or how you choose to identify. Our focus is on those who blood feed regardless of how they identify or practice. We will continue to inquire about the nature of our condition, to provide a safe haven for those who perceive their condition from a physiological lens, and be good neighbours and allies to those who have different life experiences from us.